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27e-jan-2004 01:33 pm
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if jesus were able to share his perspective, do you think he would be a democrat or a communist?

as a democrat, he would believe in everyone has a voice in government, but also forms of nobility, and conflicts would arise between parties.

in a communist government (non-fascist), everyone would be treated equally, but there isn't enough freedom...

i would elaborate on more details, but i thought it would be better if you guys debated on it..
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27e-jan-2004 10:40 am (UTC)
maybe he'd be a democratic socialist. or he'd embrace the Third Way. there's more to the Left than just communism.
27e-jan-2004 11:34 am (UTC)
true. stupid debate =p
27e-jan-2004 12:05 pm (UTC)
no, just funny. it amused me. I'm not well versed in the philosophy of the new testament, so I have little to add...
but how would jesus vote? (HWJV). the question troubles us all.
27e-jan-2004 01:31 pm (UTC)
What does democracy have to do with nobility?

There are no birthrights in American democracy, and the US Constitution forbids the government from creating an aristocracy.
27e-jan-2004 02:21 pm (UTC)
so what? wealth creates an elite of sorts.
27e-jan-2004 02:33 pm (UTC)
True but so what? Wealth just means you can hire better defense attorneys. One only has to watch CourtTV for an hour to see that the rich and famous are subject to the same laws as the rest of us.

And if you lose your wealth, you're back to being an average joe. And the average joe can get wealthy.

The point is that aristocracy and nobility require a birthright, people who are born with different rights than the rest of us.

I mean, there isn't absolutely equal treatment under the law. The police chief's son or mayor's son will probably get away with a bit more than your average kid. That said, wealthy people, especially celebrities are often a magnet for the attention of law enforcement. Look at Michael Jackson and Rush Limbaugh.
27e-jan-2004 11:21 pm (UTC)

Okay, I'll shoot..

Well, Jesus was a man alive in the first century AD. He was progressive for his day, but was strongly religious. If he magically reappeared on earth today, I doubt he would be equipped to entirely comprehend the current political system; and I very much doubt he would be interested in either either communism or the left wing of the democratic system.

Judging from his earlier positions, he would probably be a deomocratic socialist economically, and right wing in his morality. He would have little use for the argument that control from above is wrong, as a level control and regulation from above was the way in his time and religion. He would not approve of or condone (though he would likely forgive) the sort of behavior the vast majority of mankind engages in today.

This assumes that the historical Jesus somehow returned or was transported here; as someone born today with the same genetic and mental traits as Jesus could develop any number of ways. Equally, if we assume Jesus is in some way "divine" and has been watching from on high, he has had far too long to modify his opinion for any accurate guess to be made.

7e-fév-2004 07:34 pm (UTC) - A Libertarian
I don't think Christ would be either. He definitely would not be a communist. He always appealed to individuals to make voluntary sacrifices. He never infered that it was the responsibility of the state to force people to do the right thing. Charity is voluntary. Communism isn't and God gave us free will. Who's to say Christ wouldn't be a libertarian?
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