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Non-violence 
3e-avr-2004 07:43 pm
Vinyl Doll by Zawieruszynski
"If people were always kind and obedient to those who are cruel and unjust, the wicked people would have it all their own way: they would never feel afraid, and so they would never alter, but would grow worse and worse. When we are struck at without reason, we should strike back again very hard; I am sure we should - so hard as to teach the person who struck us never to do it again"

"Jane Eyre", Charlotte Brontë

Thoughts? Can you teach somebody not to strike by striking it? I don't like that thought, but I don't like the opposite position, which is never to retaliate and not get involved into a world of violence. Even monks and nuns have to protect themselves in their monasteries and nunneries. Kung-fu was invented by religious people. Maybe the secret is to retaliate in a non-violent, non-lethal way, maybe there are ways to "teach" violent people without using their methods? I don't know.
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3e-avr-2004 11:38 am (UTC)

Non-violence has no place in this world. Maybe in a few hundred thousand years we can rethink that position.
3e-avr-2004 03:41 pm (UTC)
I'll just ask this: What did appeasement do to Hitler during the late 1930's?

I fully agree with that quote.
3e-avr-2004 06:31 pm (UTC)
I think maybe the solution is to use the least violent method possible. The worst thing is an enemy that knows you won't hit back.

I lived in an apartment with a gun for a while. The gun was never fired, but it prevented several robberies that we know of. If someone had broken in, I would have been willing to shoot them, but I would never use a gun to threaten someone.

The problem is finding a line between protecting yourself and retaliating.
20e-oct-2006 04:35 pm (UTC)
You have to have preventive measure but hope you never need to use it. Don't make idle threats.

Example: Have a gun in your house to scare bad doers, but if some one breaks into yuor house be prepared to use it...or be prepared to be robbed.

Example: Set up UN sanctions with penalties. If someone breaks santions..do the penalty you said you would do.
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